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ARTICLES: Should any Manufacturers be Heat Treating In-House?

 

Should Any Manufacturers be Heat Treating In-House? This debate has raged on and off for a number of years-should manufacturers heat treat in-house (captive heat treating) or should the work be sent out to commercial heat treaters? Recently it has moved more to the fore front for many manufactures, the reason being that when business conditions become tougher, margins smaller everything is on the table. Such is the case now. Recently we have been averaging at least one phone call a week from companies debating about sending their work out or in some case bringing it in house. We will give you three recent examples we have come across; Case #1. A manufacturer of reasonably heavy parts in the distant past heat treated in house but for the past number of years has been outsourcing to a local commercial heat treater (roughly 60 miles away). Value of the heat treating is approximately $250,000/year. Margins for their product are tighter, they have some extra space available and the question came up “should we bring it in house again as costs are going up because of increased transportation costs”? This answer was apparent after a 15 minute conversation. Because of the weight and configuration of the parts they had to be run in a cast link belt furnace. The absolute minimum investment on their part would have been $500,000 to install a furnace line and the volume of work they have would have kept the furnace running at most 1-2 days/week. Not in a million years would this sort of investment have made sense. Case #2. A captive heat treater doing annealing that is seeing volumes drop. What to do? Just a couple of years ago this in house heat treating department was kept full, but volumes have declined to the point that their HT department can fulfill their productions requirements in just 2 days a week. Look for outside work to fill the furnace or outsource? With the slim margins that commercials work on it makes no sense to look for outside work, especially since this is a union shop. The only scenario that makes any sense is outsourcing the heat treating requirements, at the end of the day a fairly straight forward decision. Case #3. This is a rather unusual situation. In this case the manufacturer has been outsourcing the heat treating for quite some time, however the nearest commercial heat treater is 400 miles away. At first glance it does not make sense to bring the work inside as it amounts to only at most $100,000/year, however based upon the fact that transportation costs are growing, turn around times are horrendous and the fact that the equipment they would need can be purchased and installed for less than $100,000 bringing the heat treating in house makes a great deal of sense. In these three examples we see one company that should continue outsourcing, another that should and a third who should be bringing their requirements in house. While every situation is unique our feelings over the years have become more solidified and that is that virtually all companies should at least take a good hard look at what their heat treating is costing them vs.; what a commercial heat treater would charge them to do the work. Some situations demand in house heat treating, a couple of examples would include large aerospace companies with specialized, high end heat treating where the volumes justify heat treating in house and companies doing Induction work (an easily repeatable process which can be turned on and off at will). Incidentally the number one reason why companies want their heat treating in house? Surprisingly enough turnaround time as opposed to cost savings. Most manufacturers recognize that they are not going to save a great deal (or anything) by doing the work themselves but with just in time manufacturing quick turnarounds are crucial. In fairness to commercial operations who are constantly told their deliveries are too long we will make the point that as a manufacturer sending out $50,000 worth of heat treating/year in less than full furnace loads you cannot expect a commercial to hold a furnace available full time unless you are prepared to pay through the nose for this service. If you’re a captive heat treater and would like to see if it makes sense to continue down the road please let us know and we will be more than happy to lend you our assistance.

 

ARTICLES: SHOULD ANY MANUFACTURERS BE HEAT TREATING IN-HOUSE?

 

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Aerospace Quality Alumimum Solution Treating Drop-Bottom Oven Holcroft Single Row Pusher Annealing Furnace
Can Eng Mesh Belt Line Lindberg Box Temper
CEC Type Box Draw Furnace Pacific Scientific Temper
Grieves Walk in Oven Precision Quincy Oven
Hevi-Duty 36" Mesh Belt Temper Promet Aluminum Drop Bottom Oven

Item #T153 Promet Aluminum Drop Bottom Oven. Electrically heated this oven has working dimensions of 48" diameter X 48" high. The quench tank is located in a pit beneath the oven. A hydraulic door traverses horizontally below the oven and the load is lowered into the quench. Oven is installed but not currently in use. Approximately 30 years old. Asking price is $24,900 US.


Item #T152 Precision Quincy Oven. Working Dimensions: 48" x 30" x 48",  Gas Fired, 350°F Max, Uniformity: +/- 5°F, 2 Door Design,  3 years old and in excellent condition. $7,250 US or Best Offer  

 


Item #T151 Holcroft Single Row Pusher Annealing Furnace. This line is complete and in excellent condition. Currently installed but note being used. The system consists of a body forge controlled cool furnace, gas fired including Pre-Heat and controlled cool sections. Each installation also includes a blast air cool chamber and all parts handling equipment to move the parts from the presses to the furnace and through the installation to the unloaded, which will place the parts on a customer provided tub or hopper. The tray return then brings the unloader trays back to the charge end of the furnace. The furnace normally operates in an automatic cycle. However, manual controls are provided to allow the operator to move furnace mechanism individually.

Specifications:

Dimensions 83'- 6-1/2" Long x 23'- 3" Wide x 10'- 6" High. Hearth Level 3' - 6" Above floor level. Tray Size 20" x 40". Number of Tray 47. Loading per Tray (Net) 704 Pounds. Trays per Hour 17. Pounds per Hour (Net) 12,000. Pounds per Hour (Gross) 13,700. Pre-Heat Maximum Temperature 1700°F. Controlled Cool Operating Temperature Cool to 1 100°F. Controlled Cool Maximum Temperature 1550°F. Air Cool Section Cool to 650°F. Asking Price: $175,000US


Item #T150 Hevi-Duty 36” Mesh Belt Temper. This is a gas fired mesh belt temper with a work area of 36” wide X 216” long X 14” high. Model HG-12-36 X 216 X 14. 480/3 phase/60 Htz. Maximum operating temperature 1200ºF. Barber Colman Digital Controller and overtemp. Unit is low profile with 2 roof mounted fans. Comes with approximate 3’ pre wash on load end. Asking Price: $17,500.00 US.


Item #T149 CEC Type Box Draw Furnace.  Gas Fired. Size I.D.: 24" wide X 36" long X 24" high. Maximum temp.: 1000°F. Controls: Honeywell digital Temperature Control, Honeywell Digital Overtemperature Control And Honeywell Dr4200 Round Chart Recorder. General: Air Operated Vertical Lift Front Door. Gas Heated, The Interior Is Lined With Light Weight Refractory, (2) 30" Long Roller Rails And A Belt Driven Circulating Fan In The Roof. Outside dimensions are 9’ High x 7’ long x 6’ wide. (These take into account all piping and the control cabinet which is on the side of the unit). F.O.B.: Ohio. Asking Price: $10,000US


Item #T148 Pacific Scientific TemperModel PKMD-50, 23" wide X 36" long x 18" high, Gas fired. 1972 Vintage. 1250 F operating temperature. Asking Price $6,000US.


Item #T146 Aerospace Quality Aluminum Solution Treating Drop-bottom Oven. Manufacturer: INSPEC Manufacturing Model: 366A Year of Mfr: 1992 (Upgraded to PLC operation in 1997) Heating: Electric, 90 KVA, Rod Overbend Elements, 6" Pyroblock Insulation Max. Temp.: 1150°F Uniformity: Meets +/- 10°F, Regularly running to AMS 2770E Spec. Load Dimensions: 72”W x 30”D x 72”H Max. Load Weight: 1600# Transfer Time: 5 Second Quench Delay (Door open to completely submerged) Pit Size: Could be floor mounted or tanks can be located in pit to reduce overhead Floor Space: Approx. 14’x14’, plus the 2 cabinets, Overall Height: 10ft above floor Controls: GE Fanuc 90/70 PLC (new 1997) with Operator Interface), Yokagawa temperature controller with Yokagawa Hi-Limit, Circular Chart Recorder (prints own chart), PLC also has 2 remote panels for quench tanks and for other functions Air Circulation: Roof-mounted 24” diameter, belt-driven fan, with 304SS “muffle”to direct hot air Quench Tanks: Two (2) Each, Approx. 6’W x 8’L x 8’H, Agitated with 48 Nozzles, 125 PSI pump with strainer valve, piping, flow guides. Load sits on pedestal. Actual footprint to hold both quench tanks is 108" across front, 132" deep and 108" high. Includes 9 kW Chromolox heater and Katema 6-Y-48 shell & tube heat exchanger. Quenchant tank liquid level sensors Baskets: One Load Rack and One Basket Included, Carbon Steel Operation: This system can be set up in several ways, depending on your facility space: a. Stationary Tanks in Pit, Oven as Gantry moving over the tanks (original configuration at American Airlines) b. Stationary Tanks on Floor, Oven as Gantry Moving over the tanks c. Stationary Oven on legs, Tanks moving on floor under oven (legs have been built already to do this. Still needs tank drive.) Condition: Oven is in excellent internal condition. Outside just repainted. Quench tanks have just been completely cleaned and repainted outside, and have primer awaiting final coat on inside. Price includes wiring to junction boxes, once you decide how you want it set up. Also includes larger drive for the quench tanks and final painting of tank internals. Location: Indoor Storage in Portland, OR Price: $79,000US with larger tank drive, interconnect wiring and final internal tank paint, or $69,000US As-Is, Where-Is 

 


Item #T139 Grieves Walk in Oven750 degree maximum gas fired oven that was new in 1993. Working dimensions of 54" wide x 72" deep x 72" high. Good condition. Asking Price: $10,000US. New Info.


Item #T129 Lindberg Box Temper. Estimated to be almost 20 years old but surprisingly enough don't think it was ever used and the internals certainly look brand new. Working dimensions of approximately 12" X 12" X 18" high. Operating temperature of 1400°F. Asking Price: $6,000 Canadian (a little over $5,000.00 US). Immaculate condition.


Item #T116 Can Eng Mesh Belt Line. Although this line is not complete it could offer a real savings for anybody looking for a large Can Eng mesh belt line. It consists of a very nice temper (description below), quench oil tank, conveyor, prewash, control panel and some burners for a high heat furnace. Basically a buyer would need pre wash, high heat furnace and loading system. The temper is rated for 6,000 pounds/hour. It is about 7 years old and gas fired. Belt is 60" wide by approximately 75' long. Operating temperature is 1200°F. Belt is a fine weave and is in excellent condition. Overall I would say this furnace is in very good condition. While a couple of the temperature controllers are missing the owner will replace these. New the temper only would be approximately $400,000US. Vendor is asking $150,000 US for everything but will consider offers.

 


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